GUS Daily Digest Tue, 18 Apr 95 9:37 PST Volume 21: Issue 18 Today's Topics: Creative<--->GUS! Good site GUS & Mitsumi FX400 GUS & Protected Mode Gus Max Memory Magic Carpet MIDI playback in Windows Mouse freezes when starting Windows for Workgroups 3.11 Removing Gamewave MIDI TEAC 4X teac replies UMC 491/Award motherboard OK? Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 21:52:36 +0100 From: emilr@ksnet.ksedb.no (Emil Rakoczy) Subject: Creative<--->GUS! Hello. A funny idea just came into my head this other day... I was asking myself why huge companies (such as those who created bioforge f.ex.) don't include GUS support and instead is supporting strange soundcards that I've never heard of. Well, I found it funny that they didn't support the GUS when !!A LOT!! of people have it. So this peculiar idea submerged in my head.. Might it be that somebody is telling them not to include the GUS? Might it be that they answer "Noooo, we can't do such a thing". And then the other people give them some money and everything is okay, except for the GUS owners... Might it be that Creative is paying to have the GUS excluded... No that can't be. There has do be something else... But that's the only reason I can think of. "When sombody say the word "Soundblaster" to me, I feel strange and want to break things." EmilR, Norway. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 20:56:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Emory Menefee Subject: Good site Maybe everybody knows about this site already, but if not check out ftp.cdrom.com /pub/cica/sounds Good collection of sequencers, players, midi handling stuff. For starters, WinJammer2.3, WinJammerPro, WinMusic, Beatmaster, Encore, Ezimp18, Muzika2, Mstud40, etc. If you don't have it, get impvz130 -- great algorithmic improvisation software. Pretty good game files on another directory. I had unusually fast downloading as well. Is GusMusic dying? Emory Menefee ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:02:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Blade Subject: GUS & Mitsumi FX400 Message-ID: Hi all. I just purchased a Mitsumi FX400 from US Computer. I got it for $179. Gee I thought, what a great ideal. So the box came, and from the looks of the wrapping, I could've done a better job. So I say, so what, maybe it just came out of the factory. I open up the package, guess what? No 40pin connector cable, no EIDE/APTPI cdrom controller card, no mounting screw, I have 2 hard drives and how the hell am I suppose to mount this thing? Besides that the menu is horrible documented and basically tell you nothing. Above maybe irrelevent but here's the question I'm going to ask. The mitsumi audio calbe that came with looked quite small and doesn't fit, so like I have a red, a white, and a black wire and an empty socket. So like which pin goes to which pin on the GUS? Since the 4 pin connector of the GUS is left grd grd right, and the 3 pin is lft grd rgt. and the mitsumi audio cable is red black white none. Any help would be appreciated. One more thing, is it cheaper to obtain an EIDE cd controller card or the GUS DB? Thanks! -=Dave=- \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ \ email: jiang@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu phone: (217) 332-3503 \ \ jiang@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu \ \ jiang@par0015.urh.uiuc.edu ftp://par0015.urh.uiuc.edu \ \ WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~jiang \ \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun. Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-eight million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue-green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea ... -- Douglas Adams, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:40:58 GMT From: Terje Wold Johansen Subject: GUS & Protected Mode I bought three games recently, NASCAR, XCOM-2 and FIRST ENCOUNTERS(ELITE III) and they all support GUS but they don't work! NASCAR screws up the joystick readings. XCOM-2 have no sound effects. ELITE III: Screen becomes black just before the intro starts. ATT: All games work perfectly with No Sound. I've tried every IRQ, DMA and hardware addr. I've tried SBOS, MegaEm 3.03b to no avail. I even changed the bus clock speed to 8.333MHz. Nothing. I bought my GUS in 1993. I have waited two years for games to support it. (I have updated the patches, etc. I have update 3.59) Now they do, but even those games won't work. All of the games are programmed in protected mode(DOS 4/GW and other extenders) which doesn't like TSR's especially well. Any solution but buying a SB? It is a big problem that even those games that apparently supports GUS don't work with GUS. Doesn't help GUS' popularity all that much. -- Terje Wold Johansen "I am your inferior superior." -- -- terjjo@ifi.uio.no -- -- Dept. of Informatics -- -- University of Oslo, Norway -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:16:03 -0230 From: Aaron Cameron Subject: Re: Gus Max Memory > Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 17:00:02 +0000 > From: "Aric Cyr" > Subject: Gus Max Memory > > I was considering getting a GUS MAX, I currently have a GUS (normal). > What I was wondering was what kind of memory the MAX takes to > upgrade. I heard something about the ACE taking a different ram. > Does the Max take the normal 256x4 dipps? Thanks Nope... takes one 40 pin 16bit 256k surface mount. Costs an arm and a leg, too: $60 to $80 here in Canada (plus taxe(s) too!)! I've got the MAX, but I'm waiting for the chips to drop in price before I buy... video boards are starting to use the 16 bit stuff, so hopefully it won't be long. I really don't think Gravis should'a switched. Too much hassle. Cheers AC /---------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | *** ***** WELCOME TO MY WORLD! | | ***** *********** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | | ** ** ***** *** It's really not that bad... | | *** *** **** once you get used to it! | | *********** **** | | ************* ***** *** ---------> Aaron Cameron <--------- | | **** **** *********** Memorial University of Newfoundland | | ***** ***** ***** ---> acameron@europa.cs.mun.ca <--- | \---------------------------------------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:50:08 MET-1 From: Subject: Magic Carpet Can anyone tell me the secret about getting Magic Carpet work with music and sound with the Max. I have tried Megaem 3.beta, maxsbos and sbos. Nothing works. I get music but no sound. Thanks for reading this. Armand ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:10:16 pst From: James_Hugard-CC_at_ASTENG2@ccmailsmtp.ast.com Subject: MIDI playback in Windows George wrote: >> I just got a GUSMax (512K) and it seems like a lot of the MIDI >> files I play give me a "This file may not play correctly with the >> default MIDI setup" warning in Windows. I e-mailed Gravis and they >> told me "Everyone gets this error. Just disable it." Gee.. What a >> great way to solve the problem - ignore it! And if eveyone gets >> this error, then why don't they increase the amount of RAM the card >> ships with?? > The problem isn't with the RAM. I think it's because the MIDI files > either have : 1) Sysex commands that are specifically for hardware > that can understand it, ie. Roland SCC-1, or other specific synths, > 2) contains some MIDI controllers the GUS cannot make use of, ie. > controllers that set the Chorus and Reverb. > > -George I beleave the problem is that these files utilize all 16 midi channels. In addition, they *may* have the drum track on ch16, instead of the MS-Windows "standard" of Ch10. To fix this, make a new setup in the MIDI manager that enables ch1 thru ch15, and maps ch16 to drums. Hope this helps, James. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:53:25 +0200 (MET DST) From: Niklas Smedberg Subject: Mouse freezes when starting Windows for Workgroups 3.11 When I start up Windows for Workgroups 3.11, my mouse pointer freezes. The mouse works the first second, but as soon as Program Manager shows up (or when the GUS driver initializes, is my guess) it stops working - the hour glass won't go away and I can't move it around anymore. I have tried version 5.48 and 5.50 of the driver, but with the same dissappointing result. The problem goes away if I modify SYSTEM.INI to remove the GUS drivers, or if I exit Windows and start it up a second time. I think the problem first showed up when I upgraded to 3.59, or when I installed OS/2 Warp in my system. Can anyone help me? /Smedis __\/__ / ^ _ \ (\| (o)(o) |/) +-----------.OOOo----oo----oOOO.------------------------------------------+ | Niklas Smedberg Phone: +46-(0)8-84 74 62 | | d91-sme@nada.kth.se Beeper: +46-(0)740-19 10 23 | | http://www.nada.kth.se/~d91-sme Fax: +46-(0)8-531 714 31 | +----------------------Oooo.--------+ Adress: Folkskolegatan 24, -1 tr | .oooO ( ) | 117 35 Stockholm, Sweden | ( ) ) / +-------------------------------------+ \ ( (_/ \_) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:12:50 +0100 From: engineer@mail.soc.staffs.ac.uk (Ian Silvester) Subject: Removing Gamewave MIDI To Damian Scully, Have you tried simply copying the midimap.cfg from the gravis install disks (it may be in the ultrasnd\windows directory as well) ? Yan ------------------------- -------------------------------------- Ian Silvester, Phone: +44 (0)1785 353348 Research Associate, Fax: +44 (0)1785 353331 School Of Engineering, "He dreams... while he's not sleeping" Staffordshire University. - The Chameleons ------------------------- -------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:52:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Pete Kilcullen Subject: TEAC 4X > I have a friend who has a TEAC quad plugged to his sound bastard 16 but is > only getting 320k/s for a transfer rate. If I was to do the same thing on my > gus (that is buy the TEAC for use with my GUS) can I expect the same poor > performance? Which drive sucks less; the TEAC or Mitsumi? How 'bout Diamond? > IE which quad drive is best(fastest) that has either and eide or creative labs > interface? TEAC supplies its own IDE card with the drive. I've had no trouble using this card for the drive. I did change my bus speed to more than 10MBps however and now get 620k/s transfer rate. I have an old GUS which had no interface for the drive. I understand that using tthe CDROM interface on many soundcards slows down the performance of this drive. So use the IDE card that comes with it and hook ONLY the audio cable to your GUS. > > To Anyone, > About 4X CD-ROMs. I've also heard that the Mitsumi Quad wasn't too > hot as with the Teac. A friend of mine picked up a Toshiba EIDE > QuadSpeed for about $200 the other day. Seems to work fine. Nice and > quick. Also, i've noticed that EIDE CD-ROMs are quicker if they are on > thier own channel as opposed to being slaved. See my comments on getting proper speed from a TEAC. > can this TEAC 4X Cd-rom drive can cconect thro. our GUS MAX with the > Panasonic INterface??? Yes. First, I suggest that the drive itself be used with the card that come it. I know, another slot taken up; but this ensures maximum drive performance. The audio cable that comes with the drive has a SB plug interface at the sound card end. I had to pay $6.95 to get a 4 hole Panasonic plug so I could plug the audio to my GUS pins. Finally, you must enable the GUS to "hear" the drive. Use "ultrinit -eo" (I think) in the software. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 19:06:45 -0700 From: dross@ultrix5.cs.csubak.edu (dean ross-smith) Subject: teac replies thanks all for your comments/suggestions ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 14:11:59 -0400 (EDT) From: tmcreek@eos.ncsu.edu Subject: UMC 491/Award motherboard OK? I'm kind of an old timer on this list (or at least I feel like it). As such, I have long since forgotten wether the problems with UMC chipsets have been resolved. I remember that some UMC's had a bad DMA controller or some such, and GUSs refused to function on a 16-it DMA channel. Anyway, I'm looking at buying a UMC491 based VLB motherboard. It has 4 30 pin and 2 72 pin SIMM sockets and an Award BIOS. I am also getting a rev 2.4 GUS for dirt cheap for use with Linux. Can anyone give me an opinion one way or the other on the UMC 491? Will it handle 16-bit DMA? Thanks. -- tmcreek@eos.ncsu.edu - Engineering Computer Operations, 5 Page Hall, 515-3536 ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V21 #18 ******************************* To post to tomorrow's digest: To (un)subscribe or get help: To contact a human (last resort): FTP Sites Archive Directories --------- ------------------- Main N.American Site: archive.orst.edu pub/packages/gravis wuarchive.wustl.edu systems/ibmpc/ultrasound freedom.nmsu.edu pub/ultrasound Main Asian Site: nctuccca.edu.tw PC/ultrasound Main European Site: src.doc.ic.ac.uk packages/ultrasound Main Australian Site: ftp.mpx.com.au /ultrasound/general /ultrasound/submit South African Site: ftp.sun.ac.za /pub/packages/ultrasound Submissions: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound/submit Newly Validated Files: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound Mirrors: garbo.uwasa.fi mirror/ultrasound ftp.st.nepean.uws.edu.au pc/ultrasound ftp.luth.se pub/msdos/ultrasound Gopher Sites Menu directory ------------ -------------- Main Site: src.doc.ic.ac.uk packages/ultrasound WWW Pages --------- Main Site: http://www.xmission.com/~grue/gus.html Main European Site: http://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/ultrasound/ Main Australian Site: http://ftp.mpx.com.au/archive/ultrasound/general/ http://ftp.mpx.com.au/archive/ultrasound/submit/ http://ftp.mpx.com.au/gravis.html Mirrors: http://www.st.nepean.uws.edu.au/pub/pc/ultrasound/ GUS digest: http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~itam/digest.html MailServer For Archive Access: Email to Email to New Submit Files Mailing List: Email to with content "subscribe epas-list " Hints: - Get the FAQ from the FTP sites or the request server. - Mail to for info about other GUS related mailing lists (programmers, musicians, etc.).